there was only one person from sacramento who responded. i am asking is there anyone out there from sacto who meets together and comfort each other from the abuse we lived through from the jw org. wow, only one person. second chance , respond to me. is there any from sacto who wants to talk and discuss issues? does anyone know someone is this area?
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how sad it is that knowone from my city wrote
by the mole inthere was only one person from sacramento who responded.
i am asking is there anyone out there from sacto who meets together and comfort each other from the abuse we lived through from the jw org.
wow, only one person.
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my regret getting baptised/ your opinion from former jw's
by the mole in***the mole**** i had a discussion with a friend about some things the org covered up.
starting with a calm subject about her and her husband being tricked with a fraudulent scheme for buying discount gas and that several witness were duped and lost alot a money.
i advised that the da's office found it difficult to prosecute because witness' believe not suing each other.
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another update for those looking at this thread.....my friend called me today and asked if i was depressed or drunk? she stated that i was angry and hateful and that jehovah would leave me and my family...well? what do you all think?
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my regret getting baptised/ your opinion from former jw's
by the mole in***the mole**** i had a discussion with a friend about some things the org covered up.
starting with a calm subject about her and her husband being tricked with a fraudulent scheme for buying discount gas and that several witness were duped and lost alot a money.
i advised that the da's office found it difficult to prosecute because witness' believe not suing each other.
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did everyone run out of opinions? i have an update for all of you. my friend called me back and told me she wanted to know were i stood with jehovah...i told her i believe in god and christ but i had questions on the org giving correct info...this is what she said, " if you doubt the organization and reject it you reject jehovah. if that is how you feel we cant be friends any longer." ....now did my questions every doubt god? did they doubt christ? did i every say i doubted our friendship? no i did not........can someone explain this from there own opinion of our conversation..i want to hear from others
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israel/judah the split, will it happen to wts?
by the mole injust as israel and judah split the org will also split.
it is time for those who love real truth break away.
can reformation happen?
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just as israel and judah split the org will also split. it is time for those who love real truth break away. can reformation happen? can a split happen? all former and current witness, tell us what you think!
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witness' from sacramento where are you
by the mole inany jw's from sacto out there?
is there a support group for those in sacramento for those who disagree with the org.
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any jw's from sacto out there? is there a support group for those in sacramento for those who disagree with the org.
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current witness' i need your opinion
by the mole in***the mole**** for current witness'.
i brought up a topic of scandal.
do you feel that i attacked my friend when discussing this?
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***the mole**** for current witness'. i brought up a topic of scandal. do you feel that i attacked my friend when discussing this? i brought the issue of the u.n., charles russel molestation case, and local new in sacramento stating more molestation cases have risen. she hung up on me should i call her back and apologize?
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my regret getting baptised/ your opinion from former jw's
by the mole in***the mole**** i had a discussion with a friend about some things the org covered up.
starting with a calm subject about her and her husband being tricked with a fraudulent scheme for buying discount gas and that several witness were duped and lost alot a money.
i advised that the da's office found it difficult to prosecute because witness' believe not suing each other.
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***the mole***thanks everyone for your opinion. just to let you know i didnt accuse her of anything and the org. i simply started off asking why. she began to defend quickly. she did point out that she spoke to her c.o last month about the molestation charges on NBC and kcra channel 3 here in sacramento here had local speaking about molestion here in town that was covered up. she got very upset. i brought up the issue of the u.n scandal and she said it was big lie... i slipped though. i told her i didnt think the org was the true org to lead mankind to perfection that is when she snapped. in her defence she kept on saying the 7 congregations in the bible was the first org and that jw org was the second chosen by christ. that is when i went about charles russel being accused of molestation and went on about more scandels i listed above....i really think i wont here from here again i feel that my secret identity will be revealed..my gut feeling is that she will now tell everyone i questioned the org status on mankind and have me lable from here on out as the apostate in my family. she knows all my family in sacramento and know how devout they are....what a pickle for i got my self in for asking simple questions...the mole
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my regret getting baptised/ your opinion from former jw's
by the mole in***the mole**** i had a discussion with a friend about some things the org covered up.
starting with a calm subject about her and her husband being tricked with a fraudulent scheme for buying discount gas and that several witness were duped and lost alot a money.
i advised that the da's office found it difficult to prosecute because witness' believe not suing each other.
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***the mole**** I had a discussion with a friend about some things the org covered up. starting with a calm subject about her and her husband being tricked with a fraudulent scheme for buying discount gas and that several witness were duped and lost alot a money. i advised that the da's office found it difficult to prosecute because witness' believe not suing each other. i explained that it was on local tv and that she should get her money back also. her response is that people are greedy that's why class actions suits are started. i asked then why did you buy into that scheme? i then told her in sacramento that the following week a local tv provided info on molestation and that several halls are being sued. her answer was that satan was against the org and that evil people want to shame god's name. i brought several issues up and our conversation ended bitterly. she yelled and scream defending every action of the org and told me they were being lead by jehovah. i advised that the org is far from perfection. before she hung up i asked if the word of christ was perfect, then why do we need new light every so often? i told her that it is christ to mediate between man and god not an org then she hung up on me......for those who are still members and past members only, what is your opinion? i see a box they have inclosed themselves in and im glad that im not in it...so what are your thoughts....***the mole***
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***the mole*** my assembly in san francisco
by the mole in***the mole*** i had my assembly this past weekend and i had to tell my story of a woman i spoke with.
she was a mother standing alone in front picketing the assembly at the cow palace.
her sign interested me so in great risk to my self i walked up to her and spoke with her.
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***the mole*** I had my assembly this past weekend and i had to tell my story of a woman i spoke with. She was a mother standing alone in front picketing the assembly at the cow palace. her sign interested me so in great risk to my self i walked up to her and spoke with her. She told me that her daughter was baptised three years ago and was attending the same convention as me and that her daughter refused to let her see her grandchildren against their wishes. She stated the reason for this abuse was that she still celebrated christmas and that her ONLY daughter didnt want to see her and that the grandkids who are around ten and twelve years old where told not to see their nana anymore. the woman was in tears. i agreed with her that it was wrong for the daughter to do that. .......the org has poisened the minds of their people and has not seperated them to find truth but to find prejudice and ignorance. the org does not follow gods laws and christ rules but their own rules made up by misguided men. i was disgusted while i sat in the cow palace both saturday and sunday listening to the tripe they fed us...this woman is a innocent victim and her daughter will pay the price later for such a horrible act; for jehovah himself said do not be neglecting your father and mother but cherish them as they are your elders and givers of life....the mole
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Will the Watchtower cease the door to door work SOON ???
by run dont walk in.
can you see the watchtower saying, no more door to door preaching, lets say within the next ten years ?.
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***the mole*** I would answer no that the kingdom work will not stop..im a third generation witness who recently stepped out but i can answer as being a former ms that this is the corner stone of the organization and the recognized distinction that seperates them from other religions in which the organization is very proud of. In fact, this is what they bash over the heads of other religions for not being so proactive in recruiting from the streets and doors..***the mole***